Congregational transformation is fueled by personal renewal
Part 2 of
an interview with Jim Herrington
and Trisha Taylor,
Authors
of Learning Change
In Learning Change:
Congregational Transformation Fueled by Personal Renewal (Kregel Ministry),
authors Jim Herrington and Trisha Taylor
share stories from a community of pastors who tell of their journey to discover
whether real change in their congregations was possible. Many felt trapped in
unhealthy, even toxic, church situations and were desperate for hope. Yet their
journey eventually led them beyond all their expectations. Learning Change chronicles these transformations lived out in
practice, in community, and over time in a wide variety of congregational
contexts.
Q: How did you find and
collect the stories of churches who were able to institute lasting change in
their congregations for this book?
We were
invited by leaders from Western Theological Seminary, Reformed Church in
America and the Christian Reformed Church to develop a collaborative process
focused on personal and congregational transformation. Based on our previous
work in a variety of settings and using content from our previous books, Leading Congregation Change and The Leaders Journey, we designed what
has become Ridder Church Renewal (named after Bud and Lenora Ridder, donors who
funded the pilot project). We did a 30-month pilot project with 16
congregations. All of the writers who contributed to the book were in that
pilot project. As they applied what they were learning and because we worked
together more than five years, we were able to see the unfolding stories of
transformation in their individual lives and in the lives of their
congregations.
As a
result of the process we have been through with more than 100 congregations
now, the stories pour in. People love to share the ways they are seeing
meaningful change in their personal lives and forward movement in their
congregations. The book includes just a few of the stories connected to this
group of contributors. The stories in real life are a lot messier than they
sound in this book, even though we tried to tell them as honestly as possible.
We would encourage the reader to remember that learning is gradual and there’s
lots of messiness along the way.
Q: In what ways did the churches
participating in the study most need to change? Did they all share a common
goal?
They all
needed deep change in the mental models guiding the decisions they made about
how to impact their communities effectively with the Gospel. This included
confronting and changing mental models about things that are dear to us as
Christians: discipleship, mission and the role of the church. They all also
needed support and encouragement as they worked to change those mental models.
The common goal was renewed hope they and their congregations could thrive in
the 21st century.
Q: Tell us about your
observations and research that led to the pilot programs you started in Houston
to reconnect pastors and congregations to their calling.
In 1990,
Jim was serving as the executive director of Union Baptist Association. They
conducted a 40-year longitudinal study of the success and impact of their 400
congregations. They combined that with a series of 25 listening sessions with
pastors of different-size churches from different parts of the city and from
different language and culture groups. The research showed two overwhelming
realities. The first was 80% of their congregations were plateaued or declining
despite being in a massive mission field. The second was pastors were largely
demoralized. As one pastor said, “I’m working harder than I’ve ever worked for
less results than I’ve ever gotten. My health is failing. My family is
struggling. All my denominational leaders can tell me to do is work harder at
what I’ve been doing.” We became convinced we needed to find systemic,
innovative solutions to the challenges facing pastors and congregations.
During
that same period, Trisha was working one-on-one with pastors and ministers and
their families in counseling and in a local pilot leadership development process
for pastors called LeadersEdge. Her experience lined up with what several
national studies were showing; many pastors were emotionally, relationally and
spiritually weak and unhealthy, and they were ineffective leaders because their
seminary programs had not trained or equipped them to lead. Many had trouble
spiritually forming a congregation because they didn’t understand the process
of spiritual formation. These pastors felt the pain of their ineffectiveness
but were turning to programs to grow their churches rather than engaging a deep
process of personal transformation. As pastors engaged in counseling, peer
groups and LeadersEdge, they enthusiastically reported their experience of deep
change. However, in most cases, the changes the pastors were experiencing
didn’t translate to congregational change. We then began wondering how to set
up a process for transformation and learning that would lead to change in
pastors, lay leaders and congregants.
Q: Who is the intended
audience for Learning Change, and how
should the book be used?
The
intended audience is pastors and congregational leaders who are faced with the
challenge of congregational revitalization. Many pastors — particularly those
who have recently finished seminary and are in their first call — have a good
background in theology and church history but lack the relational skills to
pastor a congregation. While they can’t learn these skills from reading our
book, the book will alert them to some of the skills and values that are
necessary and will invite them into a community of learners.
We’re
particularly enthusiastic about the potential of this book to provide an
introduction and reference guide for lay leaders to engage some of the best
information out there about congregational leadership, spiritual formation and
missional living and to hear the stories of others who are also putting these
things into practice in their congregations.
This book
will be most effective when it is used in community — small groups of people
who are committed to learning together. We’ve already heard about church
staffs, denominational teams, study groups and gatherings of friends beginning
to work through this book together. We would say this to the reader: If you
read to gain information, this book will be helpful; it has lots of good
information and can serve as a resource for that. If you read to increase your
own self-awareness and think through your own leadership, it will be even more
helpful. If you do the exercises, think through the questions, practice being
different, learn to use the tools in real life, share your learning with others
and receive their feedback, it will be life-changing.
Q: In the second section of Learning Change, you write about the
four core values that drive our process of learning and effect change. What are
those values, and why are they imperative?
The
values are authenticity, integrity, courage and love.
We
believe the core values are essential for two reasons. One, we hold a deep
conviction (taught by Jesus and the prophets) that when it comes to
transformation, the how is even more
important than the what. Two, deep
change has to come from deep places; surface-level behavior change isn’t what
we’re after. These values help us start from a different place and guide us as
we learn to live a different way.
Q: Part three of the book
delves into mental models and shifting the way we think about ministry and the
church. What are some of the old ways of thinking that need to be reexamined in
order to move forward as more missional congregations?
The
fundamental shift is one that disrupts the separation of the secular from the
sacred. Until congregational leaders recognize the mission of the church is in
the world — the workplace, the schools, the neighborhood — they will continue
to languish. This will include disrupting the assumption the professional
minister is doing ministry and everyone else is working in the “real” world.
This must shift to the ministry team empowering, coaching and celebrating those
people in the congregation who are on mission in the world.
A second
shift is challenging the assumption that knowledge of the Bible translates into
effective leadership. While knowledge of the Bible is essential, knowing how to
collaborate, listen and create are also essential skills.
Another
important shift is from the goal of preserving and extending the church system
as it currently exists, in exchange for joining God in God’s redemptive,
restorative work in the world. This means letting go of some of my own
preferences and moving out of my own comfort zone.
Q: What are some of the
additional tools offered in the last section of the book for more effective
leadership?
The tools
we offer in the last section of the book are designed to help leaders understand
their own part in the corporate change process and manage themselves. We start
with helping leaders understand their autopilot — how they show up the way they
do — so they can choose differently, starting with healing the wounds involved
in creating that autopilot. We then move to helping leaders develop their
skills with dialogue, learning to listen deeply and to talk in ways that
facilitate change. Finally, we offer life-giving accountability as an essential
part of the change process — a lifelong process of coaching and being coached.
Learn more about Learning
Change at https://ridder.westernsem.edu/learning-change/.
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